• AVJR
    September 10, 2017 at 12:48 pm #33771

    Hi guys. I relapse again today watching porn, and masturbated twice. Every time I want to quit doing this, I end up doing it again. I can’t do this alone. I need the Holy Spirit to help me out. Thanks you for reading this. God bless you. ๐Ÿ˜”

    ashandis
    September 10, 2017 at 10:33 pm #33776

    AVJR,

    We all make mistakes you need to forgive yourself for being tempted. Remember how Hbus has said it isnt bad days it is a bad moment. You had a bad moment. Yes you slipped up but you can learn and grow from this we all have moments were we slip and make mistakes. So please remember this doesnt change out we feel about you.

    I will be praying for you.

    Ash

    AVJR
    September 10, 2017 at 10:45 pm #33777

    @ashandis
    Thank you. ๐Ÿ˜Š

    John Williford
    September 11, 2017 at 8:21 am #33783

    Hey AVJR!

    Have you tried XXX Church as a way to fight against this addiction?

    AVJR
    September 11, 2017 at 10:41 am #33786

    @John Williford
    Yes. ๐Ÿ™‚

    John Williford
    September 12, 2017 at 8:58 am #33799

    Cool- I like to ask, we partner with them closely, and XXX Church was a path to healing for me.

    So, looks like you’re a believer. How’s your heart? How’s your time in scripture going?

    AVJR
    September 12, 2017 at 11:06 pm #33814

    @John Williford
    My heart is feeling better now. Interact it with people online, and it made my night. I will start my devotion to learn more about Jesus’ ministry. ๐Ÿ˜Œ

    John Williford
    September 13, 2017 at 9:16 am #33819

    Good good! We’re out here and we care for you! What do you do for a devotion? I know a few that you might like- and HS has one of our own!

    AVJR
    September 17, 2017 at 11:09 pm #33895

    Cool! I am reading about Jesus’ ministry, and the early church. ๐Ÿ˜Œ

    AVJR
    September 29, 2017 at 1:13 pm #34116

    I’m sorry everyone. I watch porn again around 1, 2, 3, and 10 in the morning, masturbated five times. I am lying to myself that I want to quit. I need to be honest with myself if I want to or not. Keep me in your prayers. ๐Ÿ˜”

    eranwest9
    September 30, 2017 at 10:22 pm #34134

    Hey AVJR,
    I’ll be keeping you close in my prayers. It’s a difficult path, I know. But you’re not alone, and every day is a new day to win. Keep praying for strength to resist, keep praying for forgiveness when it happens, and keep diving into God’s Word. If you need any help, I’m here to talk, to listen, or to help in any way I can. I’ll be prayin for you tonight to win the fight.

    Hold fast,

    Eran

    AVJR
    October 1, 2017 at 2:35 pm #34136

    @eranwest9
    Thank you. Yesterday, I masturbated again, and today around 6 and 7 in the morning, I watched porn again, masturbated twice. I am the only one who is adding pain into my life. I need to stop. Once again, thank you. ๐Ÿ˜”

    eranwest9
    October 2, 2017 at 7:37 pm #34173

    It’s a daily process. One day at a time. No one just stops overnight. It’s a long process but I promise you, you can make it a day at a time. I’ll definitely keep on praying

    AVJR
    October 15, 2017 at 8:03 pm #34336

    Hi everyone. I haven’t been active in this community. I got busy. From Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, I masturbated again five times, and I watched porn earlier. I feel like I fail God today. I know this is not good for me, and I should stop. Thank you for your support everyone. ๐Ÿ˜”

    RunDanRun
    October 15, 2017 at 10:48 pm #34338

    You are not alone. Itโ€™s a very easy sin that is abused.. even by me in the latest post. It is tough to deal with, man, trust me. We can get through this together. Thank you for being honest. Itโ€™s the first step to becoming clean and free. You are not a bad person for sinning. We are all born sinners.. just keeping walking the fine line and beat this thing! You got this! Keep praying

    AVJR
    October 16, 2017 at 12:21 am #34339

    @rundanrun
    Thank you. ๐Ÿ˜Œ

    Evan9171
    October 16, 2017 at 8:06 am #34341

    Relapse is a part of recovery it happens just keep your head up and keep pushing forward. You got this.

    AVJR
    October 24, 2017 at 12:15 pm #34443

    I’m sorry everyone. I masturbated again after midnight. I don’t want to do this anymore. I was clean for 8 days. Keep me in your prayers. ๐Ÿ˜”

    Evan9171
    October 24, 2017 at 8:16 pm #34447

    I will for sure keep you in my prayers. No need to be sorry it happens. Proud of you for being honest that’s a huge part in recovery.

    AVJR
    October 25, 2017 at 12:32 pm #34454

    @Evan9171
    I did masturbated again after midnight. Thank you for caring. ๐Ÿ˜Œ

    Evan9171
    October 25, 2017 at 8:54 pm #34457

    Relapse happens in recovery. We got you man we will always be here to support you no matter what.

    -Evan

    Corey.Slone78
    October 26, 2017 at 8:36 am #34458

    Man I’ve gone through porn addiction myself, and have fought it a great deal. 2 Corinthians 12:9 say that God’s grace is made perfect in our weakness, and in Romans 8:1 says that we are a new creation there is no condemnation in Christ. Don’t give up, you got this, keep praying for victory over this. Have a good day friend, I pray the very best for you.

    AVJR
    October 28, 2017 at 1:06 pm #34477

    @Corey.Slone78
    I masturbated twice earlier. Thank you for caring. I was three days clean. ๐Ÿ˜”

    AVJR
    October 29, 2017 at 9:42 pm #34485

    I’m sorry everyone. I masturbated again after midnight earlier. ๐Ÿ˜”

    AVJR
    October 30, 2017 at 10:43 am #34496

    I’m sorry everyone. I watch porn again, masturbated around 1 in the morning. ๐Ÿ˜”

    Corey.Slone78
    October 30, 2017 at 11:15 am #34497

    Hey man, Romans tells us to lay ourselves as a living sacrifice, so we daily have to lay these things at Christ’s feet. To be vigilant to maintain what is in our thought life, Luke 6 says whatever is in a mans heart. So focus on things that pure and good. Keep it up, and Hold Fast. We believe in you.

    Fighter
    November 1, 2017 at 4:37 pm #34540

    Hey AVJR,

    I understand how you feel. You feel ashamed and disgusting about yourself. When people talk about sex you feel so uncomfortable and call yourself a monster. Everytime you decide to stop. Everytime you did you tell youself this was the last time. But after you decided to stop you just do it again, after you are clean for a long time you do it again. When you fell back yoh feel so disappointed in yourself. You cry it out because you feel so hopeless like you never get out of this.
    You feel like handcuffered in a prison cell. Its dark inside. The door is locked and guarded. Cry it out for help hope you ever get out.

    Im a joung women (17 jears old) and was addicted to masturbating like you. It all started when I was about 5. Maybe jounger. When I found out what I was doing it was al too late. I was addicted and could not stop. I was so ashamed I didn’t dare to tell anyone. I told my mum, but she didn’t understand I was really addicted. The worst thing of it all is, I was sexually ubused for 3 times. I felt like how can you feel hurt aboit it when you allway masturbate?
    October 17th of 2017 I went to a summercamp. There was a preach about sexuallity. I felt so uncomfortable when she told about masturbating, but she told she did it to what made me feel Im not the only woman in this. My ashame was gone. We had to wrote down our sins and ask God forgiveness. I wrote down masturbating. I was done with it. We were told to commit our sins to others. I was determined to commit what I have done to my group leader. Gladly she understood me. She struggeled with masturbating too. She prayed for me and guess, when I came home all tamptation was gone. From that day to now, I never masturbated again. Okay to be honest I fell two times back. I overcome my addiction. God saved me. He gave me strength to overcome, he safed me from all temptation the devil told me.

    I told you my story to let you know you are not alone in this. I wanted to tell you there is hope and God is more than able to get you out of this.

    What you have to do is this. I give u a few tips:
    1) Delete all porn stuff from your pc. If it doesn’t work put away all thing you can watch porn with. Like your pc, maybe tv or phone. Its okay to live a few days without all this stuff. This can help you from tamtations.
    2)Commit your sins to God and ask forgiveness. Ask for forgiveness when jou fall back to.
    Most times it is good to commit sins to other humans. Do you have a friend you can open up to and talk about your struggles? This can really help.
    3) If you made a bad dicicion about watch porn or masturbate break this decicion in Jesus name. Even when you told yourself your never get over your addiction, break this in Jesus name and disintegrated it in His powerfull name. Regret to Jesus you made a bad decicion. Words have power. When you decide to watch porn or masturbate, the devil will use this and take power of it. When you say you never come out of this, the devil use this to make sure you never come out of this.
    4) Read job 31:1 and Matthew 5:27 and 28. Learn this verse by heart and speak it out loud every day. Speak out loud I overcome my addiction every day, this have a lot of power in the spirit realms. This help you to understand the truth and believe it.
    5) Ask God every day for help. Ask the holy spirit to full you with his power every day. Ask in faith, because he will do it. Thank him because he is about to do this.
    6) When you feel tamtation just say out loud ‘Go away Satan! I don’t listen to you. Go away in Jesus name’ Just say out Jesus name for help. When you do this, the devil must go away. If he dont go, just sing about God and praise God. Believe me the devil will run when you do this. God gave you autority to fight against the devil.

    I hope this will help you. You can go out of this. I believe in you. Never give up.
    I’ll be there for you when you need help.

    One pray before I go:

    Dear father in heaven. I bring AVJR to your throne. I thank you for AVJR. I thank you you made him brave to tell his story on HS and admitted his struggles with porn and masturbating. God, I ask you forgiveness for what he did. Thank you you still love him.
    Father, you know how he struggle with porn and masturbating. You see his will to stop. You see how many times he tried to stop. Give him the strength to withstand every temptation. Holy spirit release your power over him and make him full of your power. Every thought about I never get over my addiction or I will always be addicted to masturbate and porn, I break these thoughts in Jesus name. (Sjukarabalabasj)
    Every power of impurity and every power of addiction I bind you in the name of Jesus. Let AVJR go satan! You have no power against hem. In the name of Jesus Christ.Now! (Sjamkarabababasj).
    Thank you father. Thak you you will help him. Thank you for the strength you give to him. We are looking forward at the time you fullfill this prayer.
    I bles AVJR. May God be with you. May God help you in all your struggles. May the joy and strength of God be with you where you go. I speak out loud about AVJR ‘You will overcome your addiction! Yeah.’

    I’ll keep you in my prayers.

    God bles you. You can do this. I believe in you.

    – guineapig kiki

    AVJR
    November 1, 2017 at 5:00 pm #34541

    @Fighter
    Thank you. ๐Ÿ˜Œ

    AVJR
    November 4, 2017 at 11:04 am #34585

    Earlier, after midnight, I masturbated again. I’m sorry everyone. ๐Ÿ˜”

    Fighter
    November 5, 2017 at 4:35 pm #34588

    Thanks for beeing honest. Its okay. Get back up. Dont give up. You can do this. A fighter isn’t someone who never fails, a fighter is someone who never quits.
    God is proud of you. Tell to God what you have done. He will forgive you. Ask Gim for help. Just shout it out. God want allways help you, but He don’t help if you dont ask for help.

    Do you have a good friend in real life you can upen up about sexual issues? Talk oubout issues and pray for each other can be verry helpfull. Just let me know if you have someone to talk.

    Can you tell me what is the reason you watch porn or masturbate? Was you bored, did you have bad feelings, did you feel alone?
    Or did you thought about it out of the notting and you feel like you cant tink oubout something different, you try not to watch or masturbate, but what you try the feeling get worse and worse and you think the only way to stop it is to watch or masturbate?
    Can you replay what you feel of think when you feel tamptation?

    Keep praying in faith. Believe God listens to your prayers.
    I pray for you, because I believe a prayer is the best wapon against everything.
    John 15:7
    You need to be connected with me and listen to my words. Than will everything you ask for happen.

    Dear father in heaven,
    Thank you for brave AVJR. Thank you you know him. You have count all his hear. You never leave him alone.
    God, you know he felt back jesterday. He feel so sorry. Father forgive him for what he did. Make him make him pure again. I clean his mind, his eyes and his hands by the blood of Jesus. God make him pure again.
    I bind every demon of addiction and impurity in the name of Jesus Christ. Satan I command you to let my brother go. You have no power against him anymore. You are allready defeated at the cross. Let him go now, you must listen to the powerfull name of Jesus.
    I thank you God. You make my brother pure again. You will help him out of this. All praise go out to You.
    AVJR, I speak about you. You are stronger than your strongest enemy. You will defeat your greatest enemy. Psalm 91:13.
    Amen

    If you need help or someone to talk. My email is [email protected] Im will allways be there for help.

    Stand up and fight. You can do this. God helps you. I believe in you.

    John
    November 6, 2017 at 12:11 am #34591

    AVJR,

    Listen friend, we all make mistakes. Iโ€™m definitely praying for you! You can get through this, we all have our struggles. I had my fair share of struggling with this same thing throughout high school and the beginning of college. Eventually I had enough, I realized it wasnโ€™t giving me the love I was seeking; and on top of that I had a thought that I believe the Lord gave me. This thought killed me. One day while I was watching porn this thought came to mind, thatโ€™s someoneโ€™s daughter. Thatโ€™s someoneโ€™s โ€œlittle girlโ€. And there I was getting a false satisfaction from it. So with that, I was discouraged from ever watching it again. The thought that a father was out there either knowing or not knowing his precious little girl was doing this. I began to cry, because if I was a father that would be the last thing Iโ€™d want my daughter doing. Iโ€™m praying for you, I really am! I hoped this helped!

    Holdfast!
    -John

    AVJR
    November 12, 2017 at 2:07 pm #34657

    I relapse again today. 2 and 3 in the morning, I watch porn again, and masturbated twice. I was eight days clean. I’m sorry everyone. Thank you for caring. ๐Ÿ˜”

    Nathanael
    November 13, 2017 at 2:46 pm #34680

    Relapse is a natural part of recovery. I know how easy it is to beat yourself up over a relapse and feel like you’re back to square one but I want to encourage you to try and do something different. Celebrate those eight days that you were clean. Be proud of yourself for that, and use that to push yourself on. Rather than let guilt and shame tear you down again, wipe the slate clean and start again. Even if you’ve already slipped up today that doesn’t mean that you have to let that cause you to slip up again. You’ve got this.

    We’re all here for you.

    With care,

    Nathanael

    AVJR
    November 22, 2017 at 7:33 am #35046

    After midnight, I masturbated again. I was nine days clean. ๐Ÿ˜”

    AVJR
    November 23, 2017 at 12:04 pm #35061

    Yesterday, I did look up pornographic images. Earlier around after midnight and 1 or 2 or 3 in the morning, I masturbated twice. I’m sorry everyone. ๐Ÿ˜”

    AVJR
    November 24, 2017 at 11:11 am #35067

    After 1 or 2 in the morning, I masturbated again. I’m sorry everyone. ๐Ÿ˜”

    Lyss8123
    November 24, 2017 at 1:21 pm #35071

    Hey friend,

    Just wanted to say all of us here believe in you, please donโ€™t lose hope. We know you can do this friend.

    With love,
    Blurryface

    AVJR
    November 29, 2017 at 11:33 am #35168

    I masturbated again after midnight or 1 in the morning. ๐Ÿ˜”

    Nate Hilpert
    November 29, 2017 at 12:09 pm #35169

    What are you currently doing to stop?

    AVJR
    November 29, 2017 at 1:18 pm #35175

    Thank you for asking, Nate. What I can do to stop is trying to focus on doing important things such as errands, family favors, and so on.

    Nate Hilpert
    November 30, 2017 at 12:14 pm #35193

    I’m sure that’s not the first time you’ve tried to focus on other things. How’s that helped so far?

    AVJR
    November 30, 2017 at 2:23 pm #35199

    It did. I did not masturbate today. Thank God. The reasons why I relapse are I am isolated from my friends, I never been in a relationship, and not sleeping at night. I haven’t seen or talked to my friends in awhile. When I try to reach out to them, they tell me they are busy. I know they have priorities they need to take care of, but I wish they can sacrifice their time to bond with me. I have been single all of my life, and I have to admit, I am not ready to be in a relationship. I do want to be in one, however, I need to take care of this problem first before I meet a girl. Maybe being scare of rejection is the reason why I relapse. I have trouble sleeping at night. I am not an insomniac. I wish I can sleep until morning sunrise, and not relapse. Thank you for asking, Nate.

    Fighter
    December 2, 2017 at 3:56 am #35223

    Are you on medication for sleeping at night? It can really help you to fall asleep and sleep until morning sunrise. Also drink a glass of milk and eat a banana can help. They contains tryptophan, your body use this to make hormones for sleeping.
    Another thing you can do is pray for a good night. Check out Mathew 7:7 and 8.

    I hope this help. I believe in you. You can overcome this!

    AVJR
    December 4, 2017 at 2:07 pm #35286

    @Fighter
    Thank you. Do you think I should consult with a doctor before I take a medication? It sounds like a solid idea. Just letting you know I am five days clean. Thank you for believing in me. ๐Ÿ˜Œ

    Nathanael
    December 4, 2017 at 5:00 pm #35290

    Just wanted to let you know how proud I am of you. You’re doing great. We believe in you.

    With care,

    Nathanael

    Sage
    December 4, 2017 at 11:19 pm #35307

    Just remember to breathe. Be kind to yourself. We all tend to beat ourselves up. Your not failing God. He has a lesson he wants you to learn. You just got to open your heart up and hear what he has to say. He’s there or she’s there to guide you. I forgot that about myself too. I’m certain you’ll get through this. Just again remember to be gentle with yourself.

    Fighter
    December 5, 2017 at 2:05 pm #35313

    Hi
    I think ist the best idea to consult a doctor before using medication. He can give advise or exercises for sleeping at night based on your problems with sleeping. Also prescribe medication if its needed. Seeing a doctor can be verry helpfull.
    Have you ever opened up to a person in real life like a good friend? Talk about struggles to people in real life can really help.
    Im proud of you. You are brave to open up for help and talk about your struggles. I believe in you. You can do this.

    AVJR
    December 6, 2017 at 12:42 am #35345

    @Nathanael @sage
    Thank you for believing in me.

    @fighter
    Thank you for responding. I will think about the medication with a doctor. I had share my struggles with a couple of my friends months ago. It’s been awhile. I want to see them again, talk to them of what I am going through, and hug them.

    Have you guys heard of The Whosoevers? Ryan Ries? He did a show about porn ruining lives, and Jesus Christ is the only one who can set people free. I will put the link below if you want to watch it.

    AVJR
    December 14, 2017 at 8:20 am #35493

    I’m sorry everyone. I relapse again today. ๐Ÿ˜”

    Lyss8123
    December 14, 2017 at 9:20 am #35494

    Hey friend,

    I just want you to know that we are proud of you and we believe in you. Although you relapsed, you got so far this time and thatโ€™s awesome. Iโ€™ve relapsed with self injury multiple times. I know it sucks when it happens, but itโ€™s part of recovery.

    Just know that we believe in you and we know you can do this.

    With love,
    Blurryface

    Chardonnay
    December 14, 2017 at 1:16 pm #35495

    I don’t think sexual frustration has got anything to do with any ‘holy spirit’, if indeed there is any such thing available today. Either way, your frustrations, temptations and natural desires are part of how God made you (or what you are). I don’t think you need to feel ‘Guilty’ each time you lapse. Any serious Addiction almost invariably involves Abstention periods and also Lapses, both big and small. You are human. We all are. Try your best, but don’t beat yourself up over this!

    AVJR
    December 17, 2017 at 2:47 pm #35539

    Thanks guys. 1 to 4 in the morning, I watched porn again, and masturbated three times. I am sad right now because I am having a hard time to stop doing it. I really don’t want to do this for the rest of my life. ๐Ÿ˜”

    Curtis
    December 18, 2017 at 7:24 am #35550

    AVJR,
    Often times when someone looks at porn people will say it is an addiction, something that is wrong in your heart, or Satan whispering lies to you. As true as some of those can be, people often times forget a very crucial part of porn addiction: the facade of it all.

    Those women who you look at, do you know their name? Do you know what are they are, how tall they are, what they stand for? Often times they don’t want to be in it at all. I have read about numerous pornstars being happier out of the porn industry. Not that most people care, they get their fix and move on. But tell me, do you treat all woman as objects? Do you look at all woman with such an eager eye?

    I believe it comes down to this principal: if you put humanity into porn, look at those women like they are your sisters in Christ (meaning God loves them as much as He loves you and i), then your view changes. Porn relies on the fact you won’t know these girls and you won’t care about them. Begin to see them as Jesus would, as human beings who need love and not as objects in a glass display.

    If you like metal one of the most powerful songs about porn it there is a song called XX City Grave by Silent Grave. One of the lines is “I’ll climb through your screen, and bleed out the image you left in me.” It really humanizes these women everyone looks at.

    I hope this helps. Porn is a crazy addiction and one that most people never break. Porn can also indirectly change how you view sex and women as a whole (though that is a different discussion for another time). Hope you have a good day, and again I hope this helps.

    Much love,
    Curtis

    AVJR
    December 22, 2017 at 12:23 pm #35664

    Thank you. Last night, I watch it again, and masturbated. I’m sorry everyone. I don’t understand why God has not ended my life the filth I done? ๐Ÿ˜”

    Lyss8123
    December 22, 2017 at 12:34 pm #35665

    Friend,

    I know itโ€™s difficult when relapse occurs, but please know itโ€™s ok. What you are doing is natural; Iโ€™m sorry that it is difficult to get past, but please know it will get better.

    Relapse is part of getting better; some relapse few times, and other relapse multiple times. Throughout the years I have relapsed multiple time with self harm.

    Make this a point in which you wish to get past; I know itโ€™s not easy, but we believe in you friend.

    With love,
    Blurryface

    AVJR
    December 29, 2017 at 12:45 pm #35777

    I watched it again today, and masturbated three times. I’m sorry everyone. There are times I feel like a fraud. Doing terrible things in secrets. I wonder if I am truly saved by God? I can’t lie to myself that I will quit this on my own. I don’t want to do this in 2018. I let you guys down. I don’t deserve this community. Thank you for loving me. ๐Ÿ˜ž

    Nathanael
    December 29, 2017 at 12:55 pm #35779

    I think one of the hardest things about relapse is the amount of guilt and shame that is attached with it. It can leave you feeling helpless and like you’ll never be free. It can leave you feeling like a let down and that you’re not good enough. Those are lies. The Holy Spirit may convict us of things we need to change in our lives but he does not condemn us, that’s the devil. Your Salvation and God’s love for you isn’t based on you doing the right things or not doing the wrong things, but based entirely on God’s grace. He’s not angry and hateful towards you for relapsing, He’s supportive and loving. He loves you just as you are, in all the mess and brokenness as well, but He also loves you too much to leave you that way. He wants you to be free of this and free of all the guilt and shame behind it as well. But that kind of change very rarely happens quickly. It’s a battle, a journey. It takes time. Take it one day at a time. Don’t let relapse or mistakes knock you down. You’re going to mess up at points, you’re human, but that doesn’t mean you’re worthless or that you can’t beat this. You can and you will. Be patient and kind with yourself. You’re trying your best. You will beat this someone day but it’s going to be a journey. I’m so proud of you for keeping trying. You’re awesome.

    With care,

    Nathanael

    Chardonnay
    December 29, 2017 at 5:01 pm #35783

    Dear AVJR, I got notifications about this thread and I have become concerned that you keep talking about masturbation too much. It worries me. It’s not healthy. All men (and many women, apparently) masturbate, some more than others. Don’t feel guilty about it or consider it a sin. I don’t think it is. Even if it is, don’t beat yourself up about it. That’s not what God or Jesus would want is it? (I am assuming you’re a Christian btw)

    AVJR
    December 29, 2017 at 6:44 pm #35786

    Thank you for replying, Chardonnay. I appreciate you caring for me, but don’t worry. I will be fine. I don’t want to take masturbation too far. I need to do something better to keep my mind focus. ๐Ÿ™‚

    Chardonnay
    December 29, 2017 at 6:52 pm #35787

    Try watching some good films – preferably comedies – also, listen to relaxing music and get out and meet friends or invite friends over for a meal and chat or watch a movie together. Help out at a Soup Kitchen, etc., maybe too…

    worshipthroughmetal
    February 26, 2018 at 9:50 pm #39789

    I’m pretty late to this post but I scour these boards looking for posts like this, because I was addicted to porn and masturbation for many years and by the Grace of God have overcome it. If ANYONE ever needs a real accountability partner, PLEASE email me at [email protected]. My name is Sam and I am here to help. I know the ins and outs of the struggle. I will be completely real with you about my past, and hopefully my trials will lead to your gains!

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